Re: What we have access to and what we wish we had

[autonomous]

I thought of this after my last post. Sawyer chaps are chainsaw resistant so it wouldn't be to hard to implement it with other armor but I don't know if it's the most cost efficient at $118.25 to $143.75 pending size. http://www.firecache.com/prodinfo.asp?number=75.8000

[Elephant]

I like the idea of using the flexible cutting board material for making the plates, but the fatal flaw in this design is that the knee will be unable to bend correctly. Please correct me if I am mistaken, as I see it the only way i see to fix that problem requires a full hinging motion of the plates above the back of the knee so that they fold backwards when the knee is completely bent. The hips are also a problem area if you plan on climbing.

i can see what you are saying. perhaps some skirting to replace the plating at the waist. kevlar or some more common material. it could be used in the knee region as well, or the plate structure could be altered to be more efficient in that region as you proposed. i am no armorsmith (i dabble, but not in platemail), but i could run it by a few people who know more on the topic. a couple of my friends are into medieval martial arts. damn good swordsmen.

anything that makes it easier to get on and take off is also a good idea. it sounds like it would be a relatively lightweight armor, when compared with its medieval counterpart. I would be interested in making a prototype and seeing what it would need to make it more functional, and do a bit of customization. you may have given me a project to work on once i get my situated with my new job.

[bob-o]

anything that makes it easier to get on and take off is also a good idea. it sounds like it would be a relatively lightweight armor, when compared with its medieval counterpart. I would be interested in making a prototype and seeing what it would need to make it more functional, and do a bit of customization. you may have given me a project to work on once i get my situated with my new job.

I'm trying to get a couple of my friends who are mechanical engineers to take a look and see what they think. I'm definitely going to build a prototype this summer, hopefully segmenting it into knee-high boots, a pair of shorts, a long sleeve shirt, and some gloves, all of them overlapping to allow the plates to work. I'm also going to try to find/design some sort of easy-clipping mechanism so that you can just put the pieces on and go. I imagine that would make taking it off difficult, but that's not as important as putting it on.

[Elephant]

I'm trying to get a couple of my friends who are mechanical engineers to take a look and see what they think. I'm definitely going to build a prototype this summer, hopefully segmenting it into knee-high boots, a pair of shorts, a long sleeve shirt, and some gloves, all of them overlapping to allow the plates to work. I'm also going to try to find/design some sort of easy-clipping mechanism so that you can just put the pieces on and go. I imagine that would make taking it off difficult, but that's not as important as putting it on.

thats awesome, if any of them (or you) are good at sketching, i would love to see a more realistic prototype. on the subject of the clipping system, that sounds like a good idea, but as to whether or not taking it off quickly is important, it damn well could be depending on the weight of the thing. generally easy on is the more important of the two, i will definitely agree with that. its not often you find you need to jump into a river, which is my main thought on the removal.

thats always my biggest fear in D&D: what happens when i inevitably end up in a river, lake, or the ocean in full armor?

[bob-o]

In any event, sticking true to the thread, I wish I had some sort of pistol or shotgun. It'll just be sometime before that happens because I want to have my own place apart from roommates before I bring in anything potentially dangerous if used in idiot hands (which they are).

[Just Jack]

I wish I had one of these...

https://www.snipercentral.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3136&sid=b3cc48a112c3bb5fa69b16eeeed7e08d

[Elephant]

I wish I had one of these...

https://www.snipercentral.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3136&sid=b3cc48a112c3bb5fa69b16eeeed7e08d

that looks awesome. i have always been a fan of the fransisca, and its essentially the same thing. damn handy anywhere within 50 ft or so.

[Dirge]

A list of things I have:

- Saiga (sporting variant of the AK47) chambered in .223, modded with a collapsible stock, pistol grip, and tri-rail forearm outfitted with a laser/light.
- Mossberg 500 Tactical Persuader 12-gauge shotgun with collapsible stock and shell carrier.
- Springfield Armory XD handgun chambered in 9mm, 4 inch barrel, black with laser/light.
- Black VooDoo Tactical MOLLE plate carrier vest.
- SAS Survival Guide pocket book.
- BlackBerry Storm with standard GPS navigation.
- Portable first-aid kit.
- Pocket sized kinetic flashlight.
- Disposable filter masks.

A list of things I wish I had/will have eventually:

- MOLLE 3-day pack.
- Kevlar arm sleeves.
- Kevlar tactical gloves.
- Kevlar neck guard.
- Hard shell shin/knee/thigh/forearm/elbow/upper arm guards.
- Scott ProMask gas mask.
- MRE's.
- SWAT helmet.
- Ka-bar knife

[Twitch]

how can you tell if a gas mask is any good?

[bob-o]

how can you tell if a gas mask is any good?

You don't die

[Twitch]

how can you tell if a gas mask is any good?

You don't die

hmmmm....brille

[FlyingPony]

I think that alot of people here are listing off what guns they have, and kevlar body armour, etc. But are forgetting how they are going to tote all of it around.

I myself have a 4800 cu. inch Lowe Alpine internal frame backpack that can easily hold about a weeks worth of food, about five liters of water(3L camelback, and various Nalgenes), sleeping bag, sleeping pad, waterproof layer(gore-tex jacket and pants), insulating jacket, long underwear, and a few other essentials. That would basically be my get up, but i would have a pair of fire-resistant Wrangler jeans (they can stop a hatchet too), and some gore-tex Asolo hiking boots.

As for weapons/tools I have/will have a leatherman multi-tool, a hatchet, some sort of side arm, and preferably a scope .22 rifle.

[Just Jack]

I think that alot of people here are listing off what guns they have, and kevlar body armour, etc. But are forgetting how they are going to tote all of it around.

I myself have a 4800 cu. inch Lowe Alpine internal frame backpack that can easily hold about a weeks worth of food, about five liters of water(3L camelback, and various Nalgenes), sleeping bag, sleeping pad, waterproof layer(gore-tex jacket and pants), insulating jacket, long underwear, and a few other essentials. That would basically be my get up, but i would have a pair of fire-resistant Wrangler jeans (they can stop a hatchet too), and some gore-tex Asolo hiking boots.

As for weapons/tools I have/will have a leatherman multi-tool, a hatchet, some sort of side arm, and preferably a scope .22 rifle.

That's how people should be thinking. If this is a zombie outbreak, your gonna wanna run and climb... a lot. The perfect backpack for this sort of disaster is a camelbak. This is mine, and it's perfect in my eyes:

http://www.skdtac.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=317

Holds a good amount of supplies like first aid, laptop, food, clothes, and tools and of course water(3L). It's not bulky which is the best choice like I said above. I'd marry it if I could.

[FlyingPony]

yeah mine is pretty big and bulky but it holds just about everything i would need. but for quicker movement i also have one of these: http://www.backcountry.com/store/CAM0150/CamelBak-MULE-Hydration-Pack.html
Its not that big, can only really hold my raincoat, and a few other essentials, plus 3L of water of course.
But then I also have this which i think is my substitute for your camelbak:
http://www.backcountry.com/store/TNF3354/The-North-Face-Heckler-Backpack-2050cu-in.html
I use it for school and it is great. holds all my books, has a laptop sleeve/hydration sleeve, and is extremely lightweight.

But ideally i think something like this would be the best for a lightweight, fast moving pack:
http://www.backcountry.com/store/TNF1328/The-North-Face-Skareb-40-Backpack-2150-2750-cu-in.html
It is not too big and bulky, but unlinke my smaller pack it has a good hip-strap set up. That means that you can fit that baby to size and then not only will it reduce the strain on your shoulders, but it make it fit more closely to your body so that it doesnt move and bounce around as much when you are running. I am assuming it has hydration compatability as well, all you would have to do is buy a bladder or transfer it from another camelbak or whatever.

I dont know how you would do this, but, i would say the best would be to somehow have two packs. One big trekking pack that could hold virtually all your gear, and then a smaller lighter one for quick travelling.

[Twitch]

I'm gonna get laughed off this thread, but i think having insomnia is gonna work for me here (and probably me alone), i dont eat much when im tired.

My backpack is like a square foot, and in it,
*15 Nature Valley bars (2 in each package) they put off hunger for at least 6 hours.
*2 bottles of water,
*10 5 hour energy shots. I always have a bad reaction to those things, so when i drink one, i'm up for 2 days (which sucks when i'm already up for 2).
*The Excalibur shake-n-lite thing (it sucks, but its ok, might get rid of it), this orange hand light with a crank on it, and a bright little key-chain light.
*my sketchbook/journal and 3 ink pens(i would fuckin' lose it if i didn't have this.)
*Lord of the Rings/Neuromancer books (not in the bag now, but i'm grabbin them.)
*baseball hat(never wore them, but it'll help)with a Brim-Lite (which i use to read at night)
*Gauze, band-aids, ace bandages and hydrogen peroxide in a little bottle
*a blanket (kinda small, but warm...wish i had a space blanket)
*maybe a rain poncho.

and that's it. I plan to be moving non-stop once hell breaks loose, preferably not sleeping until i'm on the Vehicle to HQ with my fellow ZACs, or i find suitable shelter, maybe 3 days after the outbreak.

I don't have any license for guns, nor really have any guns, but i have hand-gun training (my uncle was a gun-nut collector in virginia before he lost em all by goin' to prison,) but i'm in the process of getting that Mosin Nagat and building a 9mm smg. (I wanna point out that i am completely AGAINST guns in all shapes and forms, but these are for the Apocalypse, and they're going in my trunk.) I do have a hatchet.

Once i finish the Armour i'm working on, i'll use that, and bam, 5 minutes of putting the armour on and i'm set for a week of traveling to CHiPs and HQ.